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HONGKONG DAILY PRESS, FRIDAY, AUGUST 4TB, 1921

HONGKONG

LEGISLATIVE

COUNCIL.

SHIPOWNERS AND SHIPPING CONTROL

PROFITS.

COUNCIL ADDRESSED BY COUNSEL.

NEW REGISTRATION LEGISLATION.

INFORMATION DESIRED AS TO EACH MAN'S SPECIAL QUALIFICATIONS.

A meeting of the Legislative Craneit was held in the Council Chamber yester- day. There were present :- HIS EXCELLENCY THE OFFICER ADMINISTER

(Mr. CLAUD

ING

THE

GOVERNMENT SEVERN, C.M. (.). Hon. the Officer in Command of the Troops (Major-General Sir Joux

FOWLER, K.C.M.G., C.B., D.8.0.). Hon. Mr. A. G. M. FLMICHER, C.M.G.

C.B.E. (Colonial Secretary). Hon. Mr. J. H. KEMP. C.R.E., K.C.

(Attorney-General).

Hon. Mr. E. HALLIFAX, O.B.E.

(Secretary for Chinese Affairs). Hon. Mr. E. A. IRVING (Director of

Education)

Hon. Mr. T.`L. PARKINS (Director of

Public Works),

Hon. Mr. E. V. D. PARR.

Hon. Mr. A. O. LANG.

Hon. Mr. CHOW Suoт-SON.

Hon. Mr. A. R. Lows,

Hon. Mr. H. W. BIRD.

Hon. Mr. No Hox Tsz.

Mr. A. DYER BALL (Clerk of Councils).

Prident.

ABSENT

MINUTES.

TRIBUTE TO THE LATE MR.

The question of a close season is dealt 3. Every person liable to registration, with in Clause 7 of the Bill and Re-, every person except the person - gulation 2 of the Schedule. The effect specified in the First Schedule, will have is that partridges and quail are given the to register afresh under the new Ordin, same close season as at present, that is ance. Persons in the Colony at the co- from the 1st of February to the 13th mencement of the Ordinance will have of October. The reason why quail are month in which to register, and per given that close season is that under arriving in the Colony after the com- stand they are found very largely on

mencement of the Ordinance will have the same ground as partridges, and if month after arrival in which to register. quail shooting were allowed it would have the effect of disturbing the partridges the new bill is that in future it will b

4. The principal change introduced by in their breeding season. Doves and necessary for everyone liable to regis pigeons may not be shot under existing tration to state any special qa 5

are not disclosed by the pre

law, but I understand they have increas which

ed very greatly and they are now understatement of the person's profession ur the Bill to be allowed to be shot, except, occupation. This is in order that it may of course, in the close season, which will be known beforehand what each register- extend from the 1st of March to the 15th ed person would be able to do in the of October. The question of possession event of an emergency. A note to time of live pheasants and partridges for sale Second Schedule makes some suggestions is a rather complicated and technical one as to how the special qualification page AN ENDMENT OF NOTIFICATION OF INFECTIOUS || And it is explained sufficiently, I think, should be filled up. It will be important in paragraph 10 of theObjects and Reasons, and I do not propose to go of the qualification may be gathered

to give details from which the extent into that point again

Clause of the bill provides that the re turns and register are to be confidential. 5. The follower minor changes hav also been mado:

DISEASE BY LAWS,

The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command OF H.. The Officer Administreing the Government laid on the table the follow- ing By-law made under section 18 of the Public flealth and Buildings Ordinance 1963, Ordinance No. 1 of 1903, and moved that it be approved by the Council.

The COLONIAL SECRETARY explained that the amended by law included rabies in the list of notifiable infectious diseases and he moved that the amendment he approved by the Legislative Council.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL souled and the motion was agreed to.

QUESTIONS.

There are two new provisions in the shouting of birds within 200 yards of an Bill. One is clause 5, which prohibits the

auy inhabited house in Victoria, the Peak

district or Kowloon Peninsula, south of the commencement of the Ordiname will 6.--Persuas arriving in the Colony after a line drawn from Kowloon Police Station have a month in which to register, in to Shamshuipe Police Station. The other stead of two weeks as at present. A clause. 12, provides that any person doing similar remark applies to person, injury to growing crops whilst engaged may happen, after the commencement o

#he in pursuit of game shall be liable to pay the Ordinance, to cease to be within the to the owner of the crops such a Sua excepted classes specified in the First of money, not exceeding $50, as

theSchedule. For example, a soldier who Magistrate may determine. The nests leaves the army in the Colony, or a youth and eggs of birds protected by this Bill who reaches the age of 19 years, will in jare, of course, also protected. Clause 15 future have one month in which to re. postpones the commencement of the Or-gister instead of two weeks as at present: The Hon. Mr. H. W. Bino, in accordance to the 1st of September as exist- 7. Every registered person will have tó ane with notice previously given. asked ing licenses do not expire until the 1st report to the Captain Superintendent of the following questions:-

August.

Police any intended departure from th Colony which is intended to extend, og

a perisi which may possibly extend, to of more than one month.

8. Returns will no longer be required to be witnessed.

--The maximum fine is made $280 in

THE PASSING OF PLANS.

accordance with what may be called the standard fine for minor offences. Under the present Ordinance it is $50. The fur offences has not been changed.

1 1a view of the fact that the Govern-

I think I can summarise, Sir, very ment hesitated to adopt the recommenda-

shortly, the alterations and differences tion of the Committee appointed to jenquire into delays connection with thetween the present Bill and the existing In the first place the Ordinance passing of plans, it operaph_ B Hon Mr. D. W. TRATMAS (Colonial (f.), (e), (f) and (4) tn para of the war, the eigenspis c

Pheasants are now to be protected ab- Treasurer).

Committee's report, will the Government solutely and not only during the close state the average period tha is lapses season. The reason, as I have said, is The minutes of the hust meeting of the between the time when the fans leave that it is hoped to lay some down. Plover Council were confirmed and signed by the the Building Authority's Offick and theild duck and teal disappear from the ther fine of $10 a day for continuing notification to that officer of the unucil's cle season provision because they do decision?

not breed here. Kites, hanks, deer, 2. Tu's the Governmos daina that rabbits and hures are no longer protected when plans are sterred to the Gesunder the Bill ami may be shot at any in,Council the provisions of Sub-Secs, (2) and (3) of the Publieme without a license. Deer, as I have said, are a danger to the gardens and fields, and rabbits and hares are prac tically non-existent here. Doves are now allowed to be shot during the open sea sol. There is some slight change, as I

12. Certain particulars have mentioned just now, about the provision omitted in the Second Schedule, for the possession of live partridges and particulars as to marriage and place about increasing the license fee, but it future be necessary for each registered pheasants. There was some discussion birth. On the other hand, it will i was decided eventually not to increase person to state his business telephon

MURRAY STEWART.

The members of the Council stood in

Sev.

Health and Buildings Ordinance rendered nail and void?

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are

their places while H.E. THE PRESIDENT spoke as follows: Since our last meeting

-If that is the case will the Govern- we have heard of the death of Mr. Murray Stewart, who was a member of this coun-ment sinte on what grounds such claim is cil at various times from the year 1908 inade? fo the year 1912. He took the deepest inferest in public affairs and his speeches! always showed that he had a thorough knowledge of the subject on which he

The COLONIAL SECRETARY replied:- 1.The average period is 22 days,

and 3-Reference of plans to be Governor-in-Council is almost invariably for the purpose of a modification of, or the Public Health and Buildings Ordin

provided that in any criminal pro

10. In order to facilitate proof, it

ings under the Ordinance it shall be pr sumed that the accused person was liabl to aegistration.

11. Women are excluded from th

Ordinance altogether, and Deed] register,

Or

remembered for the strong attitude that exempiion from, certain requirements of it. and it remains at the former figure number and telephone number. If he has

Wals

The COLONIAL SECRETARY seconded and of 10. I beg to move the first reading.

REGISTRATION OF PERSONS ORDINANCE.

intended is that every person Hable to

does not come within the first schedule

the particulars set out in the second

quired to give the number of the ne no house telephone number he will be r

telephone to his house. The addition the special qualification item was referred to in paragraph 4 above.

RECREATION GROUNDS AMENDE MENT ORDINANCE.

towards the revenue

cost of the

Dw

It is also desired to take

spoke. Outside the Council he will be he took up in obtaining for the Colony as an open space the piece of land which ance No. 1 of 1903, which they contravene the first reading was approved. has become known as the finest site, and, in order to comply with Section 222 The isdom of his action has been thereof, such plans are usually formally fully recognised as this land is now to disapproved pending the decision of the Governor-in-Council. There is, there be used for the erection of the Colony's fore, no question of Section 222 being QUALIFICATIONS FOR EMERGENCY War Memorial. After he left the Colony rendered null and void by reason of any in 1919 his interest in local affairs in no reference to the Government.

WORK TO BE RECORDED. It would way flagged and throughout the War in greatly facilitate and expedite the work The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the first The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the st spite of failing health he worked inde- of the Buildings Ordinance Offee if the reading of a Bill intituled An Ordinance reading of a Bill intituled An Ordinate atigably on our behalf in organising Architect adopted the procedure recomto provide for the registration of certain to amend the Recreation Ground Onli and superintending the distribution of mended by the Committee referred to in persous. He said: This Bill is merely ance. 1909. He said: The Feyelas the sums of money placed at his disposal the Honourable Member's first question, the re-enactment of the existing Regis derived from the Chinese Recreati... by the War Charities Committee.

namely that applications, should when tration of Persons Ordinance, with cer-Ground amounts to about $273 a mouth Mr. Murray Stewart was a man of submitting plans, staio clearly what modi-tain limitations. We are proceeding by and the average expenditure amount. Ta culture and one whose friendship was a fications or exceptions they require and this method of repeal and re-enactment, about $151, leaving a surplus of $43 thing to be valued. Personally though I under what sections of the Ordinance,

partly because it is more convenient for month. That surplus has been accum only knew him here for a comparatively The Hon. Mr. BigD: In that case may purposes of reference, to the law, and ing for many years, and in 1920 the st short tiu, much appreciated his talent. I say that solections 2 and 5 of Section

partly because misunderstanding may of $10,000 was paid out of the accumul and his high character. It was with a 202 are reduced to a fares!

otherwise be caused and people might not sense of pain that his old friends wit

H.E. THE PRESIDENT: If the hou, mem know what they are intended now to do maternity hospital at Sayingpun. It is nessed the loss of physical powers which bers wishes to ask a further question, he under the amended provisions. What is proposed now to make a monthly pay

so apparent when he visited the must give notice. Colony last year, but the charm of manner

The Hon. ME. BIRD

of $100 from the surplus revenue of the This is not a registration, that is, every person who Chinese recreation ground towards and the keen interest in our affairs still question, sir. remained. He was astonished at the pro H.E. THE PRESIDENT: I don't think you of the Bill, shall register afresh, giving up of these hospital. The bas

1 Mano was art directly authorisi gress made in every direction during the are in order. nine years of his absence, and his last! GAME PROTECTION ORDINANCE. schedule. Persons in the Colous when by the Recreation Grounds Ordinaun words to the friends whom he gathered i

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the first the Ordinance comes into force will have and it is desired now to make that pay- round him before he left were that though reading of a Bill intituled an Ordinauera uonth within which to register, persons ment legal. ha expected to see changes in the colony to make provision for the protection of arriving in the Colony will have a month power to contribute $100 a month is and forced to find us so prosperous there ceif Birds and Game. He said: after arrival, and persons who during the future from surplus revenues to the I beg to move the was one thing he knew would not have The present Ordinance dealing with this currency of the Ordinate fall outside the maternity hospital. changed, and that was the affection of subject-Ordinace No. 15, 1914 is excepted clauses have a month in which first reading.

TheOLONIAL SE RETARY seconded, andą those whose friendship he had gained somewhat satisfactory in parts and to register.

very clear. Sonus of its provisighs hate The principal change which the Bill the first reading was approved,

The Objects and Reasons state: I think it will be the wish of Honour not beeú enforced; for examples, those ro- makes is that persons who register will

1. The object of this bill is to g able Members that a message of sympathylating to the possession of Hve; hora as have to give particulars of any special

to apply the surplus Tevellige should be sent to his brother Mr. Gershom and partridges for sale. Others are not qualifications which they may possess and wri

derived from the Chinese Recreationi Stewart.

in accordance with the conditions of the which are not disclosed by the mere

Ground to any charitable purpose approv- The Hon. Mr. PARR: This Council, sir, Colong : for example, certain birds are statement of a person's profession or

ed by the Governor. Naturally, only cordially endorse all you have said in given the protection of a clise season occupation. The reason is that it may your true and eloquent reference to the though they do not breed here. The pre-be known beforehand what each register. Chinese charities will be so approved. The immediate intention is to contribute late Mr. Murray Stewart. As a personal sent Bill is an attempt to re-enact the ed person may be able to do in the ease

A note to the $10 a month to the upkeep of the new friend I can corroborate that he gave of provisions of the existing Ordinance in of sudden emergency.

|a clearer form and with various correc-second schedule contains suggestions as Maternity Hospital at Sai Ying Pun his best in the interests of the Colony, tions and alterations. I think the Bill is to how that particular item should be The present revenue from the Chinese both before and after he became a mein- ber of this Council. Ou his retura to the much clearer than the present Or- filled up. It is important that a person Recreation Ground is about $273 a month, Colony, last autumn, he was able to view diance and the license, which is given in, should give sufficiently full particulars to and the average expenditure for the last with pride the progress that had been the schedule, is undoubtedly very much enable his qualifications to be judged and six months was 134 a month, leaving a

it is also hoped that people will not be surplus of about $139 a month. made, and he could justly have claimed clearer than the present one.

b of th. Bill is to divide birds | deterred by modesty from stating quali 2. Clause 3 of the bill is added because that he had materially assisted that pro into three classes: Game, jeonsisting of fications even if they are not as full as the in 1920 the sum of $10,000 was paid out gress, both while he was residing here and sipe, woodcock, plover, curlew, teal, persons who possess them might wish. the accumulated revenue of the Chinese after he left the Colony for Home where will duck, wild geese, partridges, quails, he did similar work to what his brother. pigeons and doves): vermin, namely, registered persons to register their busi-

It will also be necessary in future for Recreation Ground towards the cost of constructing the above Maternity Hos- Mr. Gershom Stewart, M.P. had dote for magpies, kites and hawks); and all otherness and house telephone numbers: if they pital, and it is necessary to legalise this the Colony, and which the Colony greatly birds, (neither game nor vermin). Game have

The balance to the edit of appreciated. On behalf of the Unofficial birds may be shot under license, with cer

no house telephone number, the payment. number of the nearest telephone to their the Chinese Recreation Ground account Members of the Council I wish to say, sir, tain restrictions such as those relating house. The bill, als contains provisions on the 31st May. 1922, was $6,359.91. that we cordially support and associate to the close season. Vermin, under this for keeping the register up to date and ourselves with the vote of sympathy you Ordinance, may he shot at any time, by it

SUPPLEMENTARY APPROPRIA is hoped that everyone liable to have proposed.

anybody, without any license under this fo registration will co-operate fully

TION BILL. After a moment's silouce, Hrs Excm-Ordinance. Other birds may not be shot with the Government in making the re LENCY SAR: The Clerk of Councils will fat all stʼdor complete, and keeping, at all times, |--The CulpazaL SECRETARY. Sir..! beg ta be directed to forward to the relatives an fense given for scientiße and similar un to date. There are certain changes in move the first reading of an Bill intituled expression of the sympathies or the purposes, Pheasants have been omitted the law which have referred to in An Ordinance to authorise the Appropria- From the list of birds which may be shot Objects and Reasons and need not tion of a Supplementary Sum of One because I understand it is hoped to lay refer to them her. I beg to move the down a stock of pheasants in the neigh first routing. bourhood of Fauling and it is desirable

here.

Coureil,

FINANCE

The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command of H.E. The Offer Administering the

they be mitter.

The DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS;

to second

The first reading of the Bill was ap-

to protect pheasants generally, through- | Gover un ent, Lid upon the talde Finan-

out the Colony, owing to their syneity. cial Minute Vos, 12 to 1 and moved that Deer are no longer protected under this

referred to the Finance Coin-Ordinance because, they are generally aproved.

source of amoyance and damage to The Objects and Reasons state :—. cultivators. I referted just now to the 1.-This bill proposes to repeal the form of license: that license now clearly Registration of Persons Ordinance, 1916. states what birds may be shot and at and to re-enact the provisions of that what times. It also draws attention, in Ordinance with certain alterations. the notes to the license, to the most im- 2. The method of repeal and re- partant provisions which affect sportsmen enactment, rather has that of amend and it shows them that the liveuse may, † ment, has been adopted, parthy for com- in certain events, be revoked by the venience of reference and partly in order Captain Superintendent of Police. to avoid possible misunderstanding.

The ATTORNEY GENERAL Seconded and the motion was agrool to

The COLONIAL STRETARY, by command of H.E. The Officer Administering the Government,. laid upon the cable the Report of the Finance Committee (No. 77 and moved that it be adopted.

Th ATTORNEY GENERAL Recouded and the motion was agreed to.

million and one thousand two hundred and sixty-two dollars and twelve cents to defray the charges of the year 1921. Ho said:" It is hardly necessary at this stage to comment at any length upon this Bill as hon. members have in their hands the Draft Appropriation Account, which gives in detail the particulars of the sutus set out, and any explanation required cau be given later in the Finance Committee. The sum which the Council is asked to vote is considerably less than the sum which ordinarily appears in the Supple- mentary Appropriation Account; but, on the other hand, it is spread over a much greater number of main heads of expendi

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